FWHT rotation ablation — TurboQuant KV Cache Optimization

Consensus Metrics

ppl_with_rotation 5.832 ± 0.165 (n=1, σ=0)

ppl_without_rotation_with_norm 6.236 (n=1, σ=0)

ppl_without_rotation_without_norm 6.525 (n=1, σ=0)

ppl_q8_baseline 5.838 (n=1, σ=0)

ppl_la3_last4 5.809 (n=1, σ=0)

ppl_la4_first4 5.821 (n=1, σ=0)

ppl_la5_first2_last2 5.809 (n=1, σ=0)

compression_ratio_4layers 4.2 (n=1, σ=0)

ppl_mode6_vonly_last8 5.839 (n=1, σ=0)

ppl_mode7_konly_last8 5.839 (n=1, σ=0)

ppl_mode8_vonly_2plus2 5.833 (n=1, σ=0)

ppl_mode2_both_last8 5.814 (n=1, σ=0)

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Parameters

type_k turbo3

type_v turbo3

context 2048

chunks 8

Hypothesis

FWHT rotation is essential for turbo3 quality

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Subject

Model: Qwen3.5-27B-Q6_K Dataset: wikitext-2

Baseline Comparison

ppl_rotation_benefit -6.8% ppl_norm_benefit -4.4%

Instances (3 reproductions)

cuda-rtx3090 claude-opus-4-6 RTX 3090

ROTATION IS ESSENTIAL. Provides 0.39 PPL gain (6.24→5.83), norm correction adds 0.29 more (6.52→6.24). Together they make turbo3 beat q8_0. Implementation: forward rotation = sign1 multiply → in-place FWHT → sign2 multiply. Inverse = sign2 → FWHT → sign1 (FWHT is self-inverse). Sign arrays are static constants (128 values each, from turbo-wht.h). WARNING: previous session incorrectly concluded rotation hurts — that was from broken double-rotation (inline FA + graph-level both active). DO NOT DISABLE ROTATION.

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ppl_with_rotation 5.8323 ppl_without_rotation_with_norm 6.2357 ppl_without_rotation_without_norm 6.5249 ppl_q8_baseline 5.8375

cuda-rtx3090 claude-opus-4-6 RTX 3090

Mode 3 (last4) = Mode 5 (first2+last2) in PPL at 5.8091. The last 2 layers are the critical ones — protecting them dominates. First 4 layers contribute less than last 4. Mode 5 is the max-compression sweet spot: only 4 layers q8_0, ~4.2x compression, -0.49% PPL. Context recommendations: up to 65K use LA-1 (best PPL), 65K-128K use LA-5 (LA-1 OOMs), 128K+ use uniform turbo3.

ppl_la3_last4 5.8091 ppl_la4_first4 5.8211 ppl_la5_first2_last2 5.8091 compression_ratio_4layers 4.2

cuda-rtx3090 claude-opus-4-6 RTX 3090

Asymmetric layer-adaptive does NOT help. Promoting only K or only V gives identical PPL (5.8390), both worse than uniform turbo3. Norm correction mismatch between turbo and q8_0 within the same layer hurts quality. K vs V makes no difference. Both must be promoted together (mode 2 at 5.8140) for the improvement to work.

ppl_mode6_vonly_last8 5.839 ppl_mode7_konly_last8 5.839 ppl_mode8_vonly_2plus2 5.833 ppl_mode2_both_last8 5.814